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اولش برام جذاب بود. ولی رفته‌رفته خیلـــــــــــــی خسته‌م کرد. هیچ رغبتی برا خوندنش نداشتم. بینش مزرعه حیوانات رو خوندم که ببینم مشکل از ذهن منه و قفل کرده یا واقعاً داستان کُند پیش می‌ره و خسته‌کننده‌ست. باز پایانش خوب بود، پایانش خیلی خوب بود. ولی شخصیت‌ها درست توی ذهن من نمی‌موندن و قاطی می‌کردم، خیلی جاها نمی‌فهمیدم راوی داره از چی حرف می‌زنه!! خیلی حس عجیبی داشت. :/ محوریتشو دوست داشتم و چیزی بود که آدمو به فکر فرو می‌برد. ولی یه جاهایی حس می‌کردم نویسنده خیلی می‌خواد اطلاعات علمی و همچنین هنری خودشو به رخ مخاطب بکشه. ترجمه هم تأثیر زیادی داشت. پانویس‌ها کم بود، یه چیزایی اصلاً ملموس نبودن و یه ایرادهای خیلی واضحی داشت. مثلاً مکالمه رو می‌نوشت بعد اشاره می‌کرد که اینو فلانی گفت. این کاملاً ساختار انگلیسیه، بارها تو متن دیدم و خیلی تو ذوقم خورد. یا جمله‌بندی‌ها بعضاً پیچیده بودن، بعضی اصطلاح‌ها رو نمی‌فهمیدم و برابرنهادهای بهتری لازم بود. مثلاً یه جا دیدم میدوسترنی رو، نفهمیدم. بعد یه جا دیگه دیدم می‌گه احساس میدوسترنی یا همچین چیزی. واقعاً این اگه معادل هم نمی‌تونه براش پیدا کنه، حداقل تو پانویس توضیح بده ینی چی. پانویس‌ها نه تنها کم بودن که بعضاً ناقص هم بودن. هرچند نمی‌خوام همه حمله‌م به ترجمه باشه.
مشاهده لینک اصلی
Ive always used the goodreads star rating:
5=it was amazing
4=really liked it
3=liked it
2=it was okay
1=did not like
Which means that I ruin the scale for all the books I review, because most people seem to use the following scale:
5=liked it
4=it was okay
3=it was boring and/or poorly written
2=it had huge flaws, and was barely readable.
1=I dont like the author/disagree with the authors opinion on a politicized subject
I sometimes feel guilty about all my average @liked it@ star ratings in a world of grade inflation, and have thought about re-scaling all my books so that they all have 4 or 5 stars.
But then a book comes along like this, where it really was amazing, and Im glad that I so rarely give out 5 stars, because then people can understand that 5 stars means that this book is really something special, and not merely good.
I cant tell you too much about this book without spoiling things. Its about memory and family dynamics. Its about life at an American university in the 1990s, and about the politics of scientific research. Its about a family in which to of the siblings are gone, and no one will talk about why.
I loved Fowlers wry wit. I laughed out loud at how the family avoids unpleasant subjects at Thanksgiving. I laughed at Rosemarys attempts to talk to people without their would be boy/girlfriend getting in the way. I loved the roommate dynamics. I especially loved that there were words in this novel that I hadnt ever seen before and didnt know the meaning of, as that rarely happens anymore.
I especially loved that it dealt with difficult, political topics without getting too heavy-handed or proselytizing. I liked that, despite the darkness of the subject, it managed a bittersweet ending.
I recommend this for people who like novels.
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I could not relate to the characters and the choppy writing style! Wanted to like this book, and there were interesting elements, but I couldnt connect to the way the story was told. Forced myself to even skim the book. Am I the only person, it seems, who did not like it?
مشاهده لینک اصلی
“She’d just rear-ended a cop car and she said that only the week before she’d been arrested shoplifting tortillas and salsa for a Sunday afternoon football party at her house. ‘This is so not good,’ she told me. ‘Honestly, I have the worst luck.’ ”
Luck? Thats not luck, thats typical stupid choices leading to disaster. I started laughing almost immediately because this sounded so familiar.
I am a longtime fan of Fowler’s work going back to Sarah Canary. WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES was a continuous surprise—mysterious, comic, nostalgic, smart, and humane. Rosemary Cooke is 22 in what she calls the middle of her story, and gets arrested for throwing milk in her college cafeteria. She hasn’t seen her brother in 11 years and her sister disappeared when she was 5. She doesn’t remember how any of this happened, but she’s about to figure it out. I don’t think I should say more about the story, only that I was laughing almost immediately and crying by the last page. I read this book in 2 days. It just doesn’t get any better than tears, laughter, and amazement.
This novel is probably the best thing Ive read in over a year, and I am a devoted reader. The main character has genuine bad luck and blames herself for it. She has to get over that. She is born into a life she didnt choose—just as we all are—and she makes the best she can of that life. Thats also what we all must do.
مشاهده لینک اصلی
Okay. So if I was to give Karen Joy Fowler advice on how to write a great novel, Id tell her to come with an engaging, intelligent and witty narrator and have her tell a captivating, moving and timely story and do it in a compelling and original way. Oh wait. I dont have to, because she just did all that in her latest totally wonderful novel entitled We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves. This is a novel that is best read with as little pre-knowledge as possible. It starts out as a seemingly emotionally troubled college-age woman is telling a story involving her apparently dysfunctional family. Around 1/4 of the way through there is a @reveal@ that totally changes the way you look at the novel. Those of you @dont-give-away-the-plot@ purists would be extremely disappointed to learn what the reveal is before you reach that part of the book. Im not that way, and still I am glad that I didnt know. Although the change made the book a bit awkward and a little too fantastical at first, Fowler develops it beautifully and produces a strong and important novel of our or anyones times. I dont want to give anything else away. Suffice it to say that I have read many novels over the last couple of years, many of them very good and some of them I would consider masterpieces. This novel, without question, falls into the latter category. It is a compelling, very readable, very witty and tremendously moving novel about family and life on earth. Highly, highly recommended.
مشاهده لینک اصلی
This book got me out of my very long reading slump. It was such an easy book to read, yet it was wonderfully complex. I sank into it as I hadn’t sunk into a book for a long time. It felt wonderful.
So, so funny. So wise. So psychologically smart and sophisticated. So entertaining. Not a false note, though the very ending wasn’t perfect for me, but it was okay. I loved all the literary and psychology/science references. Devastating too as it was emotionally raw. Complicated in a perfect way. It’s a marvelous and unique coming of age story, and I love all sorts of coming of age stories. I love Rosemary’s voice too, the main character who tells the story.
I somewhat know two of the major settings: Davis California and Bloomington Indiana. So, that was fun, even though there wasn’t a huge amount of detail of either, but I still had fun knowing the places.
Unfortunately, I knew much about it before reading it, and this is one book that’s much better to go into totally cold. Reading the hardcover book’s jacket is fine. Reading book descriptions and reviews is not. I still enjoyed it, but I think I’d have loved it even more had I known nothing other than what’s on the book’s cover; in other words, virtually nothing.
So that leads me to my dilemma. I want to highly recommend this book to my real world book club, but I don’t want members to expect too much detail when they ask me about it, and I really don’t want them looking it up. That might be a bit of a problem.
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مشاهده لینک اصلی
Ive always used the goodreads star rating:
5=it was amazing
4=really liked it
3=liked it
2=it was okay
1=did not like
Which means that I ruin the scale for all the books I review, because most people seem to use the following scale:
5=liked it
4=it was okay
3=it was boring and/or poorly written
2=it had huge flaws, and was barely readable.
1=I dont like the author/disagree with the authors opinion on a politicized subject
I sometimes feel guilty about all my average @liked it@ star ratings in a world of grade inflation, and have thought about re-scaling all my books so that they all have 4 or 5 stars.
But then a book comes along like this, where it really was amazing, and Im glad that I so rarely give out 5 stars, because then people can understand that 5 stars means that this book is really something special, and not merely good.
I cant tell you too much about this book without spoiling things. Its about memory and family dynamics. Its about life at an American university in the 1990s, and about the politics of scientific research. Its about a family in which to of the siblings are gone, and no one will talk about why.
I loved Fowlers wry wit. I laughed out loud at how the family avoids unpleasant subjects at Thanksgiving. I laughed at Rosemarys attempts to talk to people without their would be boy/girlfriend getting in the way. I loved the roommate dynamics. I especially loved that there were words in this novel that I hadnt ever seen before and didnt know the meaning of, as that rarely happens anymore.
I especially loved that it dealt with difficult, political topics without getting too heavy-handed or proselytizing. I liked that, despite the darkness of the subject, it managed a bittersweet ending.
I recommend this for people who like novels.
مشاهده لینک اصلی
I could not relate to the characters and the choppy writing style! Wanted to like this book, and there were interesting elements, but I couldnt connect to the way the story was told. Forced myself to even skim the book. Am I the only person, it seems, who did not like it?
مشاهده لینک اصلی
“She’d just rear-ended a cop car and she said that only the week before she’d been arrested shoplifting tortillas and salsa for a Sunday afternoon football party at her house. ‘This is so not good,’ she told me. ‘Honestly, I have the worst luck.’ ”
Luck? Thats not luck, thats typical stupid choices leading to disaster. I started laughing almost immediately because this sounded so familiar.
I am a longtime fan of Fowler’s work going back to Sarah Canary. WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES was a continuous surprise—mysterious, comic, nostalgic, smart, and humane. Rosemary Cooke is 22 in what she calls the middle of her story, and gets arrested for throwing milk in her college cafeteria. She hasn’t seen her brother in 11 years and her sister disappeared when she was 5. She doesn’t remember how any of this happened, but she’s about to figure it out. I don’t think I should say more about the story, only that I was laughing almost immediately and crying by the last page. I read this book in 2 days. It just doesn’t get any better than tears, laughter, and amazement.
This novel is probably the best thing Ive read in over a year, and I am a devoted reader. The main character has genuine bad luck and blames herself for it. She has to get over that. She is born into a life she didnt choose—just as we all are—and she makes the best she can of that life. Thats also what we all must do.
مشاهده لینک اصلی
Okay. So if I was to give Karen Joy Fowler advice on how to write a great novel, Id tell her to come with an engaging, intelligent and witty narrator and have her tell a captivating, moving and timely story and do it in a compelling and original way. Oh wait. I dont have to, because she just did all that in her latest totally wonderful novel entitled We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves. This is a novel that is best read with as little pre-knowledge as possible. It starts out as a seemingly emotionally troubled college-age woman is telling a story involving her apparently dysfunctional family. Around 1/4 of the way through there is a @reveal@ that totally changes the way you look at the novel. Those of you @dont-give-away-the-plot@ purists would be extremely disappointed to learn what the reveal is before you reach that part of the book. Im not that way, and still I am glad that I didnt know. Although the change made the book a bit awkward and a little too fantastical at first, Fowler develops it beautifully and produces a strong and important novel of our or anyones times. I dont want to give anything else away. Suffice it to say that I have read many novels over the last couple of years, many of them very good and some of them I would consider masterpieces. This novel, without question, falls into the latter category. It is a compelling, very readable, very witty and tremendously moving novel about family and life on earth. Highly, highly recommended.
مشاهده لینک اصلی
This book got me out of my very long reading slump. It was such an easy book to read, yet it was wonderfully complex. I sank into it as I hadn’t sunk into a book for a long time. It felt wonderful.
So, so funny. So wise. So psychologically smart and sophisticated. So entertaining. Not a false note, though the very ending wasn’t perfect for me, but it was okay. I loved all the literary and psychology/science references. Devastating too as it was emotionally raw. Complicated in a perfect way. It’s a marvelous and unique coming of age story, and I love all sorts of coming of age stories. I love Rosemary’s voice too, the main character who tells the story.
I somewhat know two of the major settings: Davis California and Bloomington Indiana. So, that was fun, even though there wasn’t a huge amount of detail of either, but I still had fun knowing the places.
Unfortunately, I knew much about it before reading it, and this is one book that’s much better to go into totally cold. Reading the hardcover book’s jacket is fine. Reading book descriptions and reviews is not. I still enjoyed it, but I think I’d have loved it even more had I known nothing other than what’s on the book’s cover; in other words, virtually nothing.
So that leads me to my dilemma. I want to highly recommend this book to my real world book club, but I don’t want members to expect too much detail when they ask me about it, and I really don’t want them looking it up. That might be a bit of a problem.
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